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I'm sure a lot of serious Christians wish that someone informed Rachel Maddow that the "Rapture" concept was invented by colonial preachers (which is to say "corporate shills") in the 18th Century, and is rejected by the Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church and several other Christian denominations as having no real basis in Scripture. The "Pre-Tribulation Rapture" has even less and was created by the Plymouth Brethren cult, who also brought us that charming fellow named Aleister Crowley. Also, the word "Russia" is not mentioned once in any book in the Bible.
Here's the only Rapture I can endorse in good conscience...
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Rapture, derived from rape, as in the rape of Europa, AKA the earth. Sometimes I wonder if they aren't right, in a completely upside down and wrong way...
Cheers, Michael
I read "plymouth" just as the Plymouth Air jet on the new Knowing tailer appeared.
Youtube: Knowing Trailer 1
Youtube: Knowing Trailer 2
~SE~
http://strangeye.blogspot.com
Can anyone look at LaHaye and Jenkins and get the warm and fuzzies?
LOL!
but at least Cameron has a new message in Fireproof!
The way I see it is that certain groups WANT their Armageddon/Rapture. Such an event gives justification to the vengeful spiteful God teaching.
Without that final climax... well, they must admit that they just may have read it wrong.
So instead, they play on the "mass consciousness manifestation mechanism" to attempt to artificially create their doomsday by moving many individual minds to that thinking and focus.
~SE~
http://strangeye.blogspot.com
My fear is the Twelve Monkeys scenario- that these groups will grow tired of waiting and start the Apocalype themselves.
Looking at those two fanatics it seems like a very plausible fear.
I couldn't finish watching the first video. Having seen a lot of really bad movies (for personal entertainment), watching modern TV gives me almost the exact same feeling as, say, watching Rocky Horror Picture Show (I mean, basically every movie I've seen since discovering the "Rosetta Stone" of ancient symbols and ritual), except with the undercurrent of "a lot of people actually take this seriously". Seems to be a cycle of "Funny -> Disturbing" that just repeats itself...
One for the what if files...
(or... How to teach your brain to consider all possibilities in the written word)
Isaiah 11
What if that the genius that wrote that chapter actually had several meanings in mind.
What if that passage was written by an elite select and secret group or member of a secret group. Only the group itself actually understood the meaning behind the words.
What if they wanted to preserve their knowledge contained within the words.
What if they taught only the surface meaning to one group and the hidden meaning to another.
What if they ordered the ultra-strict duplication process of the texts. Whereby an individual must go through special schooling to learn the process of replicating the text exactly to ensure no deviation from and/or reinterpretation of the original work.
What if that chapter actually described a process of chemical reactions and the extraction of some final product.
What if that final product was the basis of an entire religion and power structure within a kingdom/empire and was a jealously guarded secret with which a level of population control was maintained.
What if all those names and tribes and animals were used to symbolize the colors and materials and reaction properties and other such things that one would see whlist watching a particular chemical reaction take place.
What if...
Apocalypse means Revelation...
~SE~
http://strangeye.blogspot.com
I think you guys should listen to the Acharya S interview, if you haven't already. Very interesting take that sheds light on these nutballs....
These gentlemen are totally scary Chris - thank goodness that for the last few years every time I hear the word "Rapture" I can only think of this: 6 Feet Under
That always makes it feel better.
The town I grew up in has a huge Plymouth Brethren population - They were all involved in agriculture until some time in the sixties when they were told to all move into town and stock their basements up with non-perishables - perhaps another missed apocalypse date - (and haha crazy right??!! - except that it occurs to me sometimes these days that I should do the same :) )
Thank you for that interview reminder Chris!
Didn't have the time to listen to it when you first posted it.
I really enjoy reading the works of and listening to those open-minded people like her who use their brains for more than just a gooey lump of filler in their heads.
David, nothing to feel awkward about when it comes to being prepared. It shows a healthy dose of "I don't know...maybe!".
Personally, when it comes to a destructionist view, I accept that it is possible. Odds tell us whether natural or unnatural mankind will eventually have to face that prospect. But I like to look at it all like this:
I really just want to experience and enjoy the ride... right up until the sudden stop.
~SE~
http://strangeye.blogspot.com
"Can anyone look at LaHaye and Jenkins and get the warm and fuzzies?"
You mean, besides their publishers?*
Rachel's big win in this interview was in getting the leading experts of the Rapture myth themselves to dispel any notion that Pres. Obama was the Antichrist. That was a hot rumor among his opposition (a.k.a. these guys' audience).
Thanks for suggesting the Acharya S interview.
By the way, Rapture-Ready folk believe that the Bear symbolizes Russia. The bear (or parts of it) shows up as a prophetic symbol in the Bible's books of Daniel and Revelations.
*Speaking of publishers I was excited to hear about your next book in your Stormy Weather interview. Congratulations!
The NEWEST Pretrib Calendar
Hal (serial polygamist) Lindsey and other pretrib-rapture-trafficking and Mayan-Calendar-hugging hucksters deserve the following message: "2012 may be YOUR latest date. It isn't MAYAN!" Actually, if it weren't for the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised pretribulation rapture bunco scheme, Hal might still be piloting a tugboat on the Mississippi. roly-poly Thomas Ice (Tim LaHaye's No. 1 strong-arm enforcer) might still be in his tiny folding-chair church which shares its firewall with a Texas saloon, Jack Van Impe might still be a jazz band musician, Tim LaHaye might still be titillating California matrons with his "Christian" sex manual, Grant Jeffrey might still be taking care of figures up in Canada, Chuck Missler might still be in mysterious hush-hush stuff that rocket scientists don't dare talk about, John Hagee might be making - and eating - world-record pizzas, and Jimmy ("Bye You" Rapture) Swaggart might still be flying on a Ferriday flatbed! To read more details about the eschatological British import that leading British scholarship never adopted - the import that's created some American multi-millionaires - Google "Pretrib Rapture Diehards" (note LaHaye's hypocrisy under "1992"), "Hal Lindsey's Many Divorces," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)" and "Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)," "LaHaye's Temperament," "Wily Jeffrey," "Chuck Missler - Copyist," "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg" and "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)," "X-Raying Margaret," "Humbug Huebner," "Thieves' Marketing," "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "The Real Manuel Lacunza," "Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers," "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," "Dolcino? Duh!" and "Scholars Weigh My Research." Most of the above is written by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has focused on long-hidden pretrib rapture history for 35+ years. No one else has focused on it for 35 months or even 35 weeks. MacPherson has been a frequent radio talk show guest and he states that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit group and not to any individual. His No. 1 book on all this is "The Rapture Plot" (see Armageddon Books online, etc.). The amazing thing is how long it has taken the mainstream media to finally notice and expose this unbelievably groundless yet extremely lucrative theological hoax!
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